New revelations shed light on Trump-Ukraine call — live updates – CBS News

Ukrainian Giuliani ally details conversations about Biden and DNC

9:00 a.m.: Andriy Telizchenko, who worked for the prosecutor general and the Ukrainian embassy in Washington, says he discussed the DNC and the Biden family in discussions with Giuliani. His name is mentioned in both the Giuliani subpoena and the whistleblower’s complaint, where it’s alleged he met with Giuliani and is an ally of former Prosecutor Yuriy General Lutsenko.

Telizchenko argued in an interview with CBS News that he is not an ally of Lutsenko, and said that is an indication the whistleblower didn’t really understand the situation.

“It says in the whistleblower statement that I’m an ally of Lutsenko. The person who wrote this, they say he’s a Ukrainian expert… It’s the total opposite,” Telizchenko said. “Putting me as an ally of Mr. Lutsenko, it’s a misinterpretation of what this person understands of Ukraine. Who was pushing these stories out into the public?”

He told CBS News he met with Giuliani three times for several hours at a time in the U.S. Their first meeting last five or six hours. Money never exchanged hands, but, according to Telizchenko, “he offered me a coke and a cigar.”

Telizchenko said he contacted Giuliani because he wanted to discuss the DNC’s alleged activity in Ukraine and that in their meetings Giuliani also asked him about the Bidens and the incoming Zelensky administration:

“We talked about the DNC, collusion, we talked about the Biden family, what my insights were,” he said.

“He asked about it but we didn’t discuss it in depth… I want you to just find out what’s happening in Ukraine, was there a connection, what was their process, was there an investigation happening, will there be an investigation happening with the new government. So I was giving him my insights on the new government, on Mr. Zelensky, what he might do, what he might not do.”

Telizchenko thinks investigations should be reopened into all Burisma, Biden and DNC activities in Ukraine, because the U.S. “can’t trust any of the former prosecutor generals.” He claimed he is willing to give all his evidence to American agencies and is willing to testify in Congress as long as it’s open committee so no one “twists” his words. -- Erin Lyall and Roxana Saberi


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